The Colorectal Quiz: Episode 1
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Inside this episode
Who's speaking
- Rod Girardo — host
- Dr. Jason Frischer — guest
- Dr. Mark Levitt — guest
- Speaker 4
Chapters
- 0:00Introduction and Speaker Introductions — Introduction to the colorectal quiz podcast format featuring Dr. Jason Frischer from Cincinnati Children's and Dr. Mark Levitt from Children's National Hospital discussing pediatric colorectal surgery cases.
- 1:50Case Presentation and Initial Workup — Presentation of a full-term neonate with imperforate anus at 20 hours of life with no meconium passage. Discussion of VACTERL workup including vertebral, cardiac, esophageal, renal, and limb abnormalities, plus sacral ratio assessment and pre-sacral mass evaluation.
- 5:05Cross-Table Lateral Imaging and Prognostic Factors — Review of cross-table lateral radiograph showing air column 8.8 millimeters from skin, normal sacrum, and well-formed buttocks. Discussion of prognostic indicators for bowel control including sacral ratio greater than 0.7.
- 8:25Surgical Decision-Making: Primary Repair vs Colostomy — Debate between primary posterior sagittal anorectoplasty versus diverting colostomy. Discussion emphasizes knowing rectal location before posterior sagittal incision to avoid encountering urethra or bladder. The actual surgeon chose colostomy as the safer option.
- 10:54Distal Colostogram Findings and Fistula Management — Distal colostogram reveals unexpected low bulbar rectourethral fistula. Discussion of the danger of missing fistula during primary repair, technique for inspecting anterior rectal wall intraoperatively, and fistula prevalence in Down syndrome patients (5% have fistula, 95% do not).
- 13:56Case Summary and Closing — Summary of key teaching points: complete VACTERL workup, cross-table lateral for surgical planning, colostomy as safe choice, and importance of ruling out fistula intraoperatively during PSARP.
Key claims
- 3:01VACTERL mnemonic stands for: V (vertebral abnormalities), A (anorectal malformations), C (cardiac abnormalities), E (esophageal atresia), R (renal abnormalities), L (limb abnormalities) — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 3:01Plain x-ray of the abdomen can identify vertebral abnormalities including hemivertebra — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 3:01Cardiac workup should include both physical exam and echocardiogram — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 3:01NG tube should be passed to rule out esophageal atresia — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 3:01Kidney ultrasound is needed to evaluate for renal abnormalities — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 3:01True sacral ratio measurements should wait until the child is three months of age — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 4:15Pre-sacral masses are rare in typical imperforate anus cases — Dr. Jason Frischer
- 4:15In anal stenosis or rectal atresia defects, pre-sacral mass is found almost half the time — Dr. Jason Frischer
- 4:15Patients with pre-sacral mass will need MRI — Dr. Jason Frischer
- 5:05Cross-table lateral radiograph should be obtained at about 24 hours of life, give or take a few hours — Dr. Jason Frischer
- 6:01For cross-table lateral, baby is positioned prone with buttock at highest point where air will rise to — Rod Girardo
- 6:01Cross-table lateral can be obtained at bedside in neonatal unit by placing baby on bump under buttocks — Rod Girardo
- 7:08Sacral ratio greater than 0.7 connotes very good prognosis for bowel control — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 7:36Well-formed buttock, good muscle, and true area where sphincter mechanism can be located indicate likely good prognosis — Dr. Jason Frischer
- 9:11The danger of posterior sagittal approach without knowing rectal location is finding midline white structures like urethra, bladder neck, or bladder itself — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 9:11Colostomy and distal colostogram allow knowing exactly where rectum is and whether to approach perineally or laparoscopically — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 10:16Colostomy carries its own complications, as does colostomy closure — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 10:54If fistula is ignored during primary anaplasty, child can start peeing out their anus postoperatively — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 12:00During primary repair, opening posterior wall of rectum and inspecting anterior wall can rule out fistula in low rectum cases — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 12:34Bulbar fistula nomenclature refers to anatomic location at the elbow of the urethra — Dr. Jason Frischer
- 13:1595% of Down syndrome patients with imperforate anus have no fistula, but 5% do have a fistula — Dr. Mark Levitt
- 13:15Distal colostogram should still be performed in Down syndrome patients to rule out the 5% who have fistula — Dr. Mark Levitt
Cases discussed
- 1:50Full-term male neonate with imperforate anus, no meconium passage at 20 hours of life, well-formed buttocks, normal-appearing sacrum on imaging, air column 8.8mm from skin on cross-table lateral, and unexpected low bulbar rectourethral fistula on distal colostogram
Points of disagreement
- 8:25Primary PSARP versus diverting colostomy for this case
- Dr. Jason Frischer: In real life practice (not board exam setting), would perform primary posterior sagittal anorectoplasty given the air column is only 8.8mm from skin
- Dr. Mark Levitt: Agrees primary repair would likely be his choice, but emphasizes that the actual surgeon's decision to do colostomy was the safe thing to do and the right choice, with nothing wrong with that approach
Open questions
- How to definitively determine intraoperatively whether a fistula is present when performing primary PSARP without prior colostogram
- Optimal timing for sacral ratio measurement to balance early prognostic information with measurement accuracy
Topic overview
Two pediatric colorectal surgeons discuss the management of a full-term male neonate with imperforate anus and no meconium passage at 20 hours of life. The case demonstrates the decision-making process between primary posterior sagittal anorectoplasty (PSARP) versus diverting colostomy, emphasizing the importance of cross-table lateral radiography to localize the rectal pouch and the critical need to rule out rectourethral fistula intraoperatively. A distal colostogram revealed an unexpected low bulbar fistula despite imaging suggesting a straightforward low lesion, illustrating that even apparently simple cases require careful intraoperative inspection of the anterior rectal wall to avoid missing a fistula that could result in urine passing through the anus postoperatively.
Key takeaways
- Cross-table lateral at 24h localizes rectal pouch; position baby prone with buttocks elevated so air rises to defect. (5:05)
- Always inspect anterior rectal wall intraoperatively during primary repair to rule out fistula and prevent postop urine per anus. (10:54)
- Sacral ratio >0.7 plus well-formed buttocks/muscle indicate very good prognosis for future bowel control. (7:08)
- 5% of Down syndrome patients with imperforate anus have a fistula; always perform distal colostogram to rule it out. (13:15)
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