Colorectal Quizzes: Episode 39 – Mullerian Anomalies in Patients with ARM

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In this episode of the Colorectal Quiz, hosted by Liza Bokova, a colorectal research fellow at Children's National, we explore a case of a 12-year-old female with a history of cloaca and Mullerian anomaly. Joined by leading experts Dr. Levitt from Children's National, Dr. Frischer from Cincinnati Children's Hospital, Dr. Lesley Breech, and Dr. Veronica Gomez-Lobo, we discuss the importance of gynecologic assessments in patients with anorectal malformations, the challenges of identifying Mullerian anomalies, and the significance of a multidisciplinary approach in patient care.

Key Topics:

  • Early assessment of Mullerian anomalies in patients with anorectal malformations.
  • Case discussion on a 12-year-old with a history of cloaca and twin sister advancing in puberty.
  • Techniques such as vaginoscopy, saline perturbation, hysteroscopy, and MRI for evaluating Mullerian structures.
  • Collaboration between colorectal, gynecology, and urology teams in patient management.

Tune in to learn from top experts in the field and deepen your understanding of managing these complex cases.

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0:10
Welcome to our next episode of Colorectal Quiz.
Welcome to our next episode of Colorectal Quiz. I'm Lisa Bokova, Colorectal Research Fellow at Children's National, Wash…
0:32
Welcome.
Welcome. The colorectal quiz. I get calls and I know Mark, you do as well about missed gynecologic issues in simple inte…
0:55
I I want to welcome Doctor Leslie Breach
I I want to welcome Doctor Leslie Breach, my good friend for many years, who really is, in my view, the first congenital…
1:23
We're really blessed to have you all include us in this mult…
We're really blessed to have you all include us in this multidisciplinary care because in other countries, we just had a…
1:47
So today we're going to discuss a case of a 12-year-old fema…
So today we're going to discuss a case of a 12-year-old female with a history of cloaca, 2 centimeter common channel wit…
2:16
This story begins today when she presents for her follow-up …
This story begins today when she presents for her follow-up at puberty. Uh, she has a twin sister, and her twin sister i…
2:41
The vagina does not have a sphincter
The vagina does not have a sphincter, so you need to squeeze the labia around the scope so that the vagina does fill up …
3:06
Because sometimes you can put the scope into one vagina and …
Because sometimes you can put the scope into one vagina and never realize there's a second vagina there. And then, if yo…
3:35
There's 2 uteruses with 2 vaginas and 2 cervixes.
There's 2 uteruses with 2 vaginas and 2 cervixes. But what if you see 1 cervix and 1 vagina? And you don't really know w…
3:55
Then we did the PSA from below and we did not find two vagin…
Then we did the PSA from below and we did not find two vaginas. And then she came for her postoperative evaluation and l…
4:22
There was the visualization of a single cervix.
There was the visualization of a single cervix. And how do you assess the anatomy after the initial repair? When they're…
4:49
Be thinking
Be thinking, is there another and how can I best assess for that? Is that at this moment, or will there be these opportu…
5:07
Where's the other one?
Where's the other one? At the time of the assessment of the cloaca, gynecology was there, was part of the endoscopy, was…
5:33
The repair itself
The repair itself, both the perineal view and an abdominal view, if you get that far in the cloacal repair, the colostom…
6:00
And then if all of that's done and you have a pretty good id…
And then if all of that's done and you have a pretty good idea, they turn age 12, and now you got to make sure once agai…
6:22
We'll also try to attempt test menstruation where we'll do w…
We'll also try to attempt test menstruation where we'll do what we call saline perturbation or to put some salt water th…
6:45
Perturbation can basically be performed either in a retrogra…
Perturbation can basically be performed either in a retrograde fashion or in an antigrade one. Could you please tell us …
7:08
So a modification of that when in the abdomen uses an opport…
So a modification of that when in the abdomen uses an opportunity to integrate perturbation by using a small feeding tub…
7:36
So if you have a small enough cystoscopy equipment
So if you have a small enough cystoscopy equipment, sometimes you can go into the cervix and look at the uterine cavity,…
8:05
The closer the vagina and rectum are together
The closer the vagina and rectum are together, the higher the chances that there is an anomaly.
8:12
So cloaca is the highest association of Mullerian anomalies
So cloaca is the highest association of Mullerian anomalies, followed then by rectal vestibular and then the least being…
8:37
But I think then you alluded to the fact that at the time of…
But I think then you alluded to the fact that at the time of the colostomy closure, you had an opportunity to look insid…
9:06
This is a case that was managed by an interdisciplinary team…
This is a case that was managed by an interdisciplinary team that had a gynecologist assessing these uterine bodies, but…
9:35
Jason
Jason, you remember Fred Reichmann used to say it's much easier to stay out of trouble than to get out of trouble. So, w…
10:04
We've had situations where the ultrasound said there were 2
We've had situations where the ultrasound said there were 2, and we can't find 2, and then we said we better keep lookin…
10:33
But again
But again, an ultrasound after birth is very valuable because the Mullerian structures are more visible. You could get s…
10:58
We all wanna be cost-saving
We all wanna be cost-saving, but we could get the ultrasound at a couple of days or a week of life, but we're really not…
11:28
Ultrasound is extremely good.
Ultrasound is extremely good. and MRI is extremely bad because the structures. They're very tiny. All you really want to…
11:45
I think there's still a lot of MRI's being done that aren't …
I think there's still a lot of MRI's being done that aren't necessary. Of course, if they have symptoms and they're 12 y…
12:12
If you are listening from the Stay Current app
If you are listening from the Stay Current app, you can pull up the photos that are gonna be described. So when we took …
12:37
Doesn't seem to progress as far down in the pelvis
Doesn't seem to progress as far down in the pelvis, but definitely see the tube and ovary there under some adhesions. So…
13:01
We know there's only one cervix
We know there's only one cervix, but we see there's these two bodies and are they communicating or not. Then she, she re…
13:17
And Veronica mentioned earlier the role of something called …
And Veronica mentioned earlier the role of something called hysteroscopy, taking a scope and going into the uterus which…
13:44
Have a look at the second picture illustrating hysteroscopy …
Have a look at the second picture illustrating hysteroscopy findings. We see the cervix which is deviated. Slightly to t…
14:11
There is one tube opening
There is one tube opening, that means there is a unicornuate uterus on one side. So that other side is not communicating…
14:34
You can see in the pelvis
You can see in the pelvis, the right-sided Mullerian structure, which is really a right unicornate uterus, which is gorg…
15:03
You can see the same thing on these coronal images again
You can see the same thing on these coronal images again, showing the right sided unicornal structure, and you can see a…
15:17
With that information
With that information, then, we spoke to family about the idea that there is a unicornate uterus, one side open, patent …
15:47
We need that for patent flow.
We need that for patent flow. This shack needed to be removed. Interestingly enough, remember this is a young lady who h…
16:12
We kept this beautiful right-sided unicornum uterus with Nay…
We kept this beautiful right-sided unicornum uterus with Nay's mature, beautiful fallopian tube. With fimbria and a beau…
16:36
You see that it's kind of protruding because it has that end…
You see that it's kind of protruding because it has that endometrium that's not gonna be able to get out and go anywhere…
16:57
And you prevented her from having severe pain because these …
And you prevented her from having severe pain because these uterine horns, it's so much worse than the other obstructive…
17:26
Not only are you preventing ectopic pregnancies
Not only are you preventing ectopic pregnancies, but you're preventing ovarian cancer. So more recently, it's come out t…
17:53
So you wanna be protecting those at all costs
So you wanna be protecting those at all costs, but there are definitely many vessels that you find in the basosalpinx, s…
18:16
And so if you're above Of the ovary close to the tube on the…
And so if you're above Of the ovary close to the tube on the mesosalphinx, then you can remove the tube fairly easily. O…
18:44
This patient happened to have Two normal kidneys
This patient happened to have Two normal kidneys, but oftentimes we'll find these remnants and these anomalies on the si…
19:13
With this uterine horn
With this uterine horn, they should have normal reproductive potential. She's got this beautiful tube that doesn't seem …
19:40
An early delineation of that anatomy is extremely important
An early delineation of that anatomy is extremely important, particularly prior to the onset of puberty, so that we don'…
20:06
But let's say that those other opportunities aren't utilized
But let's say that those other opportunities aren't utilized, then there are imaging techniques, and we have emphasized …
20:26
Some of these cases are really a longitudinal progression of…
Some of these cases are really a longitudinal progression of deciphering that anatomy and having sort of red flag patien…
20:52
Our nurse Debbie did a project that talked a lot about how t…
Our nurse Debbie did a project that talked a lot about how the awareness for parents very early on in their care of thei…
21:09
Any patient with an anorectal malformation has to go through…
Any patient with an anorectal malformation has to go through a process we have and probably many others have similar, wh…
21:34
That Mullerian anomalies are associated not only with cloeas
That Mullerian anomalies are associated not only with cloeas. 10% of vestibular fissures have an absent vagina. Well, yo…
22:04
you can have a septum in a perineal and you can have distal …
you can have a septum in a perineal and you can have distal vaginal atresia as well, but you will not be complete as a p…
22:28
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much. Thank you, everyone. Thank you for joining us this week. This is Lisa Bokova from Children's National…
22:35
Tune in with us next time.

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