# QUAD #7 Anesthesia for Thoracoscopic Techniques with Dr. Nathaniel Tighe — GCMD Library

<p>Cincinnati Children's hosted the QUAD conference in October 2022 which was a combination of four conferences: The international organization for is Esophageal atresia, the Aerodigestive Society Conference, the Cincinnati Children's Airway course and the Cincinnati Children's pediatric dysphagia series. In this video series, we will summarize the key takeaway points from each session that has been held at QUAD 2022.</p>

<p>Today, we are here to review anesthesia for thoracoscopic techniques with Dr. Nathan Tighe, an anesthesiologist from Cincinnati Children's.</p>

<p>Host: Em Gootee</p>


Type: video · 7 min · posted 2024-03-27
Canonical: https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115

## Chapters
- [0:00](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=0) Introduction and Conference Context
- [0:53](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=53) Preoperative Assessment and Anesthetic Goals
- [2:15](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=135) Intraoperative Neuromonitoring and Surgical Exposure
- [4:02](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=242) Lung Isolation Techniques and Airway Anatomy
- [5:34](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=334) Patient Selection and High-Risk Populations

## Statements
- "Birth history and patient size are important preoperative considerations" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [0:53](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=53)
- "Physiologic status from ventilation and cardiac standpoints is particularly important in preoperative assessment" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [0:57](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=57)
- "Esophageal atresia has an association with cardiac abnormalities" — Em Gootee (epidemiological) [1:05](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=65)
- "Preoperative airway assessment can reduce operating room time with the child under anesthesia" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [1:13](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=73)
- "There are four anesthetic goals in the operating room: amnesia, akinesis, analgesia, and autonomic/hemodynamic stability" — Em Gootee (clinical) [1:24](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=84)
- "Akinesis (keeping kids still) is challenging in small children, especially when intraoperative neuromonitoring is involved" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [1:33](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=93)
- "Short-acting opioid infusions are the most common technique for maintaining stillness and result in relatively little hemodynamic instability" — Em Gootee (clinical) [1:42](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=102)
- "Volatile anesthetics are especially useful when preservation of spontaneous ventilation is desired" — Em Gootee (clinical) [1:53](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=113)
- "Intraoperative neuromonitoring precludes the use of neuromuscular blocking drugs like rocuronium and vecuronium" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [2:25](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=145)
- "Insufflation using pneumothorax can facilitate surgical exposure by overcoming peak inspiratory pressures to allow lung collapse" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [2:31](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=151)
- "Insufflation is useful for small kids with good lung compliance but not effective in kids with severe bronchopulmonary dysplasia or other compliance abnormalities" — Em Gootee (clinical) [2:48](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=168)
- "Patients with compliance abnormalities require higher peak inspiratory pressures or mean airway pressures, which can necessitate very high insufflation pressures" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [3:00](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=180)
- "Lung isolation utility is restricted by patient size and airway anatomy and requires expertise and specialized equipment" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [3:20](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=200)
- "Three critical airway dimensions for lung isolation are tracheal AP diameter, bronchial diameters, and length of right mainstem bronchus between carina and right upper lobe takeoff" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [3:34](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=214)
- "Regular endotracheal tube is the most common device for lung isolation in neonates because it is straightforward to mainstem" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [4:05](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=245)
- "For esophageal atresia repairs, the endotracheal tube is typically mainstemmed into the left bronchus which has a good landing zone for the balloon" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [4:11](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=251)
- "Bronchial blockers or Fogarty catheters require adequate space between the carina and right upper lobe takeoff for balloon placement" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [4:28](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=268)
- "In kids with pig bronchus, bronchial blocker placement becomes very difficult and may require selective lobar blockade" — Em Gootee (clinical) [4:39](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=279)
- "A tracheal bronchus (pig bronchus) is an anatomical variant where an accessory bronchus originates directly from the supracarinal trachea" — Em Gootee (clinical) [4:48](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=288)
- "Bronchial blockers can be helpful in kids with abnormal parenchyma when higher ventilatory pressures are needed without using higher insufflation pressures" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [5:07](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=307)
- "Double-lumen tubes can be used in larger kids (usually 8 years old or above) with recurrent fistulas and are the easiest device for lung isolation" — Em Gootee (clinical) [5:17](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=317)
- "Early conversations between anesthesiologists and surgeons about patient specifics are part of deciding the best modality for each individual patient" — Em Gootee (opinion) [5:38](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=338)
- "Unrepaired single ventricle kids are sensitive to changes in ventilation because they can have swings in circulation direction based on pulmonary vascular resistance" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [5:55](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=355)
- "Single ventricle patients may be candidates for open surgery or ECMO support to ensure good outcomes" — Em Gootee (clinical) [6:07](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=367)
- "Insufflation causes changes in preload, making preload-sensitive patients (particularly those with passive pulmonary circulations) quite sensitive to this intervention" — Nathan Tighe (clinical) [6:18](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/quad-7-anesthesia-for-thoracoscopic-techniques-with-dr-nathaniel-tighe-8115?t=378)

## Transcript
Global Cat MD along with Cincinnati Children's Hospital, sharing knowledge to improve child health around the globe. Hi, I'm Em Goddy from Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center, and last year in October 2022, Cincinnati Children's hosted the Quad Conference, which was a combination of four conferences. The International Organization for Esophageal atresia, the Aerodigestive Society conference, the Cincinnati Children's Airway Course, and the Cincinnati Children's Pediatric Dysphagia Series. And today we are going to review preoperative considerations for esophageal atresia repair and how anesthesiology can help facilitate surgical exposure, implications of one lung ventilation, and patient selection with Doctor Nathan Ty. He's an anesthesiologist in Cincinnati Children's. So let's start. Birth history is really important and how big the child is. Also, their physiologic status, what's going on from a ventilation standpoint, is particularly important, as well as a cardiac standpoint. The nature of their underlying pathology, bacterial and its association with cardiac abnormalities is particularly relevant to their technique. We can help make better decisions ahead of time and probably spend less time in the operating room with a child under anesthesia if we have a good look at what that child's airway looks like before we start. They have 4 goals in the operating room. First, they need to make sure that kids don't remember, which is kind of easy considering the ages of these kids. Akinesis or keeping the kids still can be very challenging in these small children, especially when intraoperative neuromonitoring is involved. The most common technique for keeping these kids still is the use of short-acting opioid infusions, as those can often result with relatively little in terms of hemodynamic instability. Volatile anesthetics can also be used, and they are especially useful when preservation of spontaneous ventilation is desired. Analgesia is an important component and there's a bunch of different approaches to this, as well as autonomic and human dynamic considerations with regard to insufflation of the chest, as well as the pain responses that the children can see. Intraoperative neuromonitoring involves monitoring in the airway, whether that's with needles, special. Tracheal tubes and adhesive surface electrodes. As far as the anesthetic goes, it precludes our use of neuromuscular blocking drugs like urouronium, Becuronium, and others. As far as facilitating surgical exposure goes, a lot of the time insufflation is a perfectly good technique that just involves using theknothorax that's instituted when you place the trochars in the chest. To basically overcome your peak inspiratory pressures, and that allows the lung to collapse. That's really useful for small kids who have really good lung compliance. It's not so good in kids who have real severe bronchopulmonary dysplasia or other compliance abnormalities. It's because they often require higher peak inspiratory pressures or mean airway pressures in general, which can result in the need to use really quite high insufflation pressures. When lung isolation is required from a mechanical standpoint, anesthesiologists use a bunch of different devices to actually prevent the ventilation of the operative lung. And its utility is restricted by the patients size and airway anatomy specifically and requires, quite frankly, a fair bit of expertise and specialized equipment. So, let's talk a little bit about airway anatomy and lung isolation. There's 3 dimensions that are really important. There's the tracheal diameter, in particular, the AP diameter because the trachea is elliptical in most cases. The tracheal diameter tells you basically what kind of devices you have at your disposal and what you can accommodate. The bronchial diameters are relevant to the kinds of devices you could use to perform the lung isolation, and the length of the right main stem bronchus between the carina and the right upper lobe takeoff is really important. There are 3 different devices that are most commonly used. Regular old endotracheal tube is probably the most common in neonates because it's relatively straightforward to mainstem. You mainstem it in the left for most esophageal atresia repairs, which has a nice good landing zone for that balloon. And it is technically a little bit easier than the placement of some of the other devices. Bronchial blockers or Fogerty catheters can be used for long isolation as well. This is where that right upper lobe takeoff and that landing zone on the right is really important. For this, you have to have enough space between the carina and the right upper lobe takeoff for that balloon to sit. In kids with a pig bronchus or similar situation, this really becomes very difficult. If you're like me, you're probably wondering what a pig bronchuss is. A tracheal bronchus, or in some variations also known as a pig bronchus, is an anatomical variant where an accessory bronchus originates directly from the suprac. trachea. You almost have to do selective lobar blockade in those children, but this can be very helpful in kids with abnormal parenchyma. So if you're having to use higher ventilatory pressures and you don't want to use higher insufflation pressures within the chest, placing one of these can be very useful. In larger kids who come back with other recurrent fistulas, if they're usually 8 years old or above, they can use a double lumen tube, which is quite frankly, the easiest thing to lung isolate with because you have a balloon that goes into the bronchus that allows you to ventilate the two lungs independently. Before we finish, let's talk about some implications for patient selection. Anesthesiologists want to know early and have conversations with the surgeons about the specifics of the patient. It is a part of the process of deciding the best modality for each individual patient as early on in the process as possible. There are people who just really won't tolerate some of these things very well. Unrepaired single ventricle kids are really sensitive to changes in their ventilation. Because they can have swings in the direction of their circulation based on their pulmonary vascular resistance. These kids may be some of the ones that you can consider either doing open or using techniques like ECMO to help make sure that they do well. And then the. The insufflation itself causes changes in preload and so kids who are really preload sensitive, in particular, young people who have passive pulmonary circulations of one kind or another, are really quite sensitive to that insufflation. In summary, preoperative assessment is critical. So please consider birth history, physiology, and underlying pathology. Intraoperative neuromonitoring helps ensure patient safety during surgery. Techniques for maintaining patient stillness include short acting opioids and volatile anesthetics. Lung isolation varies based on patient size and airway anatomy. Bronchial blockers and double lumen tubes offer options for lung isolation. And early conversations between anesthesiologists and surgeons are essential to patient specific planning. Considerations for circulatory and pulmonary sensitivity guide patient selection. Thank you for watching this video. Don't forget to subscribe to the Stay Current MD YouTube channel. Follow our social media channels and download the Stay Current MD app for tons of content in pediatric surgery. Global Cat MD along with Cincinnati Children's Hospital, sharing knowledge to improve child health around the globe.

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