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Tricks - Supine Positioning For Bilateral VATS

With Dr. Nick Bruns & Dr. Mark McCollum & Dr. Jeff Blair · hosted by Dr. Todd Ponsky · StayCurrentMD
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What the experts said29 expert statements
Lateral decubitus positioning has been adopted from the transition from open thoracotomy to VATS and provides ease of exposure and rapid conversion to open thoracotomy, but with advancements in VATS this no longer applies.
OpinionNick Bruns
Lateral positioning may add unnecessary morbidity including brachial plexus injury and decubitus ulcers.
ClinicalNick Bruns
The patient is a 17-year-old male with history of asthma who presented with shortness of breath and chest tightness when running, found to have bilateral apical blebs and a large right spontaneous pneumothorax treated with chest tube, later developing a small left spontaneous pneumothorax that resolved with observation.
ClinicalNick Bruns
Bilateral VATS with bilateral apical bleb resections and mechanical pleurodesis was performed in the supine position due to the routine nature of the procedure.
ClinicalNick Bruns
Port placement for supine VATS included 25mm ports at the 7th intercostal space midclavicular line and 6th intercostal space mid-axillary line, plus a 12mm port at the 4th intercostal space mid-axillary line to accommodate the GIA stapler.
ClinicalNick Bruns
Bilateral VATS was safely completed in the supine position, providing simplicity, convenience, decreased operative time, and decreased positioning-related morbidity.
OpinionNick Bruns
Patient selection for supine VATS is important; appropriate cases include bilateral VATS with low morbidity and well-defined pathology where you won't encounter surprises.
ClinicalNick Bruns
Bilateral thoracic sympathectomies for hyperhidrosis can be performed in the supine position at one sitting.
ClinicalJose
For sympathectomy in supine position, the lung falls away adequately with table tipping and CO2 compression of the lung to help with exposure.
ClinicalJose
Supine VATS is useful in low-risk-to-conversion thoracoscopic cases; any low-risk pleural-based lesion case for biopsy or superficial wedge resection would be applicable, but if there's high risk of conversion or difficulty with exposure, traditional decubitus positioning is preferred.
ClinicalMark McCollum
Bilateral phrenic nerve stimulators for patients with central hyperventilation syndrome can be placed in supine position because the phrenic nerve is quite anterior.
ClinicalSharif
In the presented case, a double-lumen tube was used with positive pressure in the chest being worked on, providing great exposure.
ClinicalMark McCollum
Mechanical pleurodesis was performed circumferentially from about the 5th intercostal space up to the apex, which was as easy as the standard approach with decubitus positioning.
ClinicalMark McCollum
The patient was moved to the side edge of the bed to allow full mobility of the surgeons' hands.
ClinicalMark McCollum
Parietal pleurectomy is fairly easy—you get into the space underneath the parietal pleura and strip it off—and is a far more effective way to seal the pleural cavity than mechanical pleurodesis.
OpinionJeff Blair
There have been recurrences after mechanical pleurodesis, but no recurrences after pleurectomy in the speaker's experience.
ClinicalJeff Blair
The blood patch technique is very effective for pleurodesis, and you don't want to suction out any blood for this reason.
ClinicalJack
Pleurodesis may not be necessary in these cases because the cause of the problem is blebs in the apex of the lung; removing the blebs should prevent recurrent pneumothorax.
OpinionJack
Blebs are not just a one-point-in-time thing; they have to do with the anatomy of the lung and overstretch, so if you take out one bleb, another bleb could form in a few months.
OpinionJack
These are congenital blebs that don't form over time at age 16.
OpinionJack
There are certain congenital problems where you go in and there are blebs all over the place; you see the largest ones at the apex and assume those burst, but you can have blebs you can't see or identify.
ClinicalCathy
The speaker strips the cupola of the pleura and uses the abrading technique for the lower aspects of the chest where stripping becomes harder.
ClinicalCathy
Pleurectomy is incredibly painful postoperatively.
ClinicalJeff Blair
Patients who received talc pleurodesis had more pain postoperatively compared to mechanical pleurodesis, based on anecdotal observation.
ClinicalSharif
Pleurectomy and talc are very painful postoperatively, and if you've ever had to re-operate in a chest that's had talc in it, you'll never do it again because the whole lung becomes frozen.
ClinicalMark McCollum
Mechanical pleurodesis works effectively because you just need the apex of the lung to stick up, not the whole lung frozen.
OpinionMark McCollum
In the presented case, when starting on the right side, the area where the previous bleb had spontaneously erupted was well adhered to the apex of the chest.
ClinicalMark McCollum
The more painful the pleurodesis, probably the more effective it is.
OpinionJack
Once you start pleurectomy, it's hard to stop because it strips away easily, and with modern analgesics the pain is manageable.
ClinicalJeff Blair