# Thoracic Oncology & Pulmonary Metastases — GCMD Library living collection

Updated: n/a · 7 episodes · 63 cited statements

## Episodes
### Pulmonary Metastases
- [Thoracoscopy vs thoracotomy for the management of metastatic osteosarcoma: A Pediatric Surgical Oncology Research Collaborative Study](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopy-vs-thoracotomy-for-the-management-of-metastatic-osteosarcoma-a-pedi-16280) — article · [machine version](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopy-vs-thoracotomy-for-the-management-of-metastatic-osteosarcoma-a-pedi-16280.md)
- [Survival outcomes in pediatric patients with metastatic Ewing sarcoma who achieve a rapid complete response of pulmonary metastases](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/survival-outcomes-in-pediatric-patients-with-metastatic-ewing-sarcoma-who-achiev-16273) — article · [machine version](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/survival-outcomes-in-pediatric-patients-with-metastatic-ewing-sarcoma-who-achiev-16273.md)
- [Update Course Rewind: Thoracotomy vs VATS for Lung Metastases](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632) — video · 9:40 · [machine version](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632.md)
- [Interhospital variability in localization techniques for small pulmonary nodules in children: A pediatric surgical oncology research collaborative study](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/interhospital-variability-in-localization-techniques-for-small-pulmonary-nodules-16278) — article · [machine version](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/interhospital-variability-in-localization-techniques-for-small-pulmonary-nodules-16278.md)
- [Thoracoscopic lung nodule resection techniques with wire localization and ICG imaging](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288) — podcast · 10:15 · [machine version](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288.md)
- [Hybrid OR workflow for pediatric lung nodule localization and resection](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289) — podcast · 17:19 · [machine version](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289.md)

### Major Resections
- [Pneumonectomy for Pediatric Tumors-a Pediatric Surgical Oncology Research Collaborative Study](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/pneumonectomy-for-pediatric-tumors-a-pediatric-surgical-oncology-research-collab-16281) — article · [machine version](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/pneumonectomy-for-pediatric-tumors-a-pediatric-surgical-oncology-research-collab-16281.md)

## Chapters
- [0:00](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=0) Introduction to thoracotomy versus VATS for lung metastases (Ep 3)
- [0:47](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=47) Case presentation: 16-year-old with osteosarcoma and lung metastases (Ep 3)
- [2:08](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=128) Role of metastectomy and detection of small nodules (Ep 3)
- [3:30](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=210) Thoracotomy approach: advantages and limitations (Ep 3)
- [4:41](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=281) VATS approach and comparative outcomes data (Ep 3)
- [6:21](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=381) Chemotherapy timing and bilateral disease management (Ep 3)
- [7:29](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=449) Expert perspectives and future directions (Ep 3)
- [9:10](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=550) Closing remarks (Ep 3)
- [0:05](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=5) Introduction and localization timing discussion (Ep 5)
- [1:27](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=87) Surgical technique and wire management (Ep 5)
- [4:20](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=260) ICG fluorescence imaging for nodule identification (Ep 5)
- [5:57](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=357) Hybrid OR institutional model and interdepartmental collaboration (Ep 5)
- [8:13](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=493) Procedure summary and closing (Ep 5)
- [0:00](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=0) Introduction and pre-hybrid OR workflow (Ep 6)
- [1:41](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=101) Localization techniques and wire dislodgement risk (Ep 6)
- [5:06](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=306) Cone-beam CT imaging and respiratory coordination (Ep 6)
- [8:15](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=495) Apnea technique, complications, and multiple lesions (Ep 6)
- [11:47](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=707) Fluoroscopic guidance and 3D rendering (Ep 6)
- [15:26](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=926) Draping strategy and visceral pleura puncture technique (Ep 6)

## Statements
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- About 40% of patients can achieve a durable cure response after 5 years with complete metastatic site clearance. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 2:08](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=128)
- Complete surgical resection of all metastatic tumor sites is an independent positive prognostic factor and affects overall survival, not just disease recurrence. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 2:23](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=143)
- In patients with metastatic osteosarcoma, even 1-millimeter nodules can contain malignant disease in about 60% of cases. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 2:35](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=155)
- The bigger the nodule is, the more likely it contains malignancy, but all the way down to 1 millimeter, tumor can be found. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 2:47](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=167)
- Thoracotomy has historically been standard of care because surgeons can use fingers and hands to feel tiny nodules. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 3:13](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=193)
- Manual palpation during thoracotomy finds about 30 to 40% more lung nodules than are detected on CT scan, even with thin-cut CT scans. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 3:19](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=199)
- ICG can be used with thoracotomy to find deeper nodules, though depth of penetration is a limitation. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 3:50](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=230)
- It is uncertain whether removing tiny 1-millimeter nodules actually provides a survival advantage. — Roshni Dasgupta (opinion) [Ep 3 · 4:15](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=255)
- VATS is minimally invasive with shorter length of stay, and repeat thoracoscopy typically encounters fewer adhesions compared to repeat thoracotomy. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 4:41](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=281)
- VATS often requires some sort of localization process and good interventional radiology support. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 4:58](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=298)
- In oligometastatic disease (patients with fewer than 4 nodules on each side), there was no difference in mortality between open resection and thoracoscopy. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 5:34](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=334)
- The survival curves for thoracotomy and thoracoscopy in oligometastatic disease are essentially identical, meaning the optimal operation is unknown. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 5:44](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=344)
- The multi-institution study had significant selection bias and institutional selection bias, with patients unlikely to receive thoracoscopy if they had many nodules. — Roshni Dasgupta (epidemiological) [Ep 3 · 6:03](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=363)
- Metastatic disease is typically addressed after 4 cycles of chemotherapy, and residual nodules at that point are unlikely to change with additional chemotherapy. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 6:34](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=394)
- Practice for bilateral lung metastases is highly varied, with options including median sternotomy, staged thoracotomies, or bilateral thoracoscopies. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 7:02](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=422)
- Most practitioners perform staged procedures for bilateral disease, particularly with thoracotomy, typically 4 to 6 weeks apart to allow a cycle of chemotherapy in between. — Roshni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 3 · 7:13](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=433)
- Dr. Rothenberg's institution reported almost 20 years ago that survival didn't change when there were only 3 to 4 nodules per side. — Steven Rothenberg (clinical) [Ep 3 · 7:29](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=449)
- Because osteosarcoma is a systemic disease, the argument that manual palpation is necessary would logically require bilateral thoracotomy, not unilateral. — Steven Rothenberg (opinion) [Ep 3 · 7:52](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=472)
- Even with the best CTs, only 1 to 2 millimeter nodules can be visualized, and some are still missed. — Steven Rothenberg (clinical) [Ep 3 · 8:02](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=482)
- There are nodules that can be felt but not seen, and nodules that cannot be felt at all. — Steven Rothenberg (clinical) [Ep 3 · 8:05](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=485)
- Dr. Rothenberg's practice is to use thoracoscopy when there are only 3 to 4 nodules per side that are amenable to thoracoscopic resection, in order to reduce morbidity. — Steven Rothenberg (clinical) [Ep 3 · 8:12](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=492)
- For bilateral oligometastatic disease, Dr. Rothenberg performs bilateral thoracoscopy. — Steven Rothenberg (clinical) [Ep 3 · 8:23](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=503)
- Non-surgical methods such as CyberKnife using fiducials to localize and ablate lesions may be a future approach for lung metastases. — Todd Ponsky (opinion) [Ep 3 · 8:43](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=523)
- The Children's Oncology Group is starting a study to answer the question of thoracotomy versus VATS, with enrollment expected to begin late 2021 or early 2022. — Todd Ponsky (guideline) [Ep 3 · 8:56](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=536)
- The localization procedure from patient entry to surgical readiness takes approximately 45 minutes total. — Denise Liu (clinical) [Ep 5 · 1:03](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=63)
- The surgeon places the first port without initially collapsing the lung, finding and securing the wire while the lung remains inflated to prevent wire displacement through chest wall musculature during lung collapse. (clinical) [Ep 5 · 1:31](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=91)
- After CT confirmation of wire position, the wire is cut at the skin level rather than left at full length. (clinical) [Ep 5 · 2:35](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=155)
- Cutting the wire at the skin prevents it from becoming cumbersome during surgical manipulation and reduces risk of accidental removal during patient transport or repositioning. (clinical) [Ep 5 · 2:39](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=159)
- In one case, OR nurses unfamiliar with the wire localization mistook the wire for a retained stitch and removed it, leading to the practice of cutting wires short. (clinical) [Ep 5 · 3:14](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=194)
- Fluoroscopy during resection is used only when a coil has been placed, to confirm the coil has been removed with the specimen and is not retained in the patient. (clinical) [Ep 5 · 4:05](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=245)
- ICG (indocyanine green) is metabolized by the liver, making it particularly useful for visualizing hepatoblastoma metastases to the lung. (clinical) [Ep 5 · 4:35](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=275)
- Enhancement of pulmonary nodules with ICG depends on the primary cancer's vascularity; sarcomas show hyperenhancement due to increased angiogenesis. — Denise Liu (clinical) [Ep 5 · 4:52](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=292)
- ICG hyperenhancement is not specific for a single tumor type because multiple primary cancers can be hypervascular. — Denise Liu (clinical) [Ep 5 · 5:12](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=312)
- ICG has limited depth of penetration in thoracoscopic approaches, preventing visualization of deep lung lesions and often requiring specimen opening for confirmation. (clinical) [Ep 5 · 5:38](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=338)
- ICG is more useful in open surgery for finding non-palpable lesions than in thoracoscopic approaches. (clinical) [Ep 5 · 5:33](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=333)
- Needle localization is important for nodules that are not at the lung periphery, where ICG limitations are more significant. (clinical) [Ep 5 · 5:46](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=346)
- At Cincinnati Children's Hospital, interventional radiology was moved from the radiology department into the operating room in 2000. (clinical) [Ep 5 · 6:38](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=398)
- Interventional radiology procedures at Cincinnati Children's are scheduled through the operating room system with OR anesthesia, fully integrated into the OR environment. (clinical) [Ep 5 · 6:57](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=417)
- Physical integration of IR into the OR is uncommon; few hospitals have achieved this despite attempts. — Denise Liu (epidemiological) [Ep 5 · 7:08](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=428)
- Pre-hybrid OR, peripheral lung nodules that are deeper require localization in CT suite followed by patient transfer to OR upstairs — Rajni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 6 · 1:17](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=77)
- Traditional localization uses Copan's breast localization needle and wire plus/minus methylene blue blood patch — John Riccadio (clinical) [Ep 6 · 1:49](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=109)
- Deploying microcoils through Copan's needle is technically challenging and requires practice outside the patient; coil holder must be firmly established in hub or coil will deploy in the hub instead of the target — Neil Johnson (clinical) [Ep 6 · 3:08](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=188)
- Patients undergoing lung nodule resection receive double-lumen endotracheal tube or bronchial blocker depending on patient size — Rajni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 6 · 3:39](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=219)
- Pre-hybrid OR workflow: patient intubated in OR, transferred on stretcher to CT two floors down, moved onto CT table, scanned and localized, moved off CT table with wire protected, transferred back to OR, then repositioned for thoracoscopy — John Riccadio (clinical) [Ep 6 · 3:52](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=232)
- Multiple transfer and repositioning steps create opportunities for wire dislodgement — John Riccadio (clinical) [Ep 6 · 4:35](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=275)
- In hybrid OR, when nodule location permits, patient can be positioned in thoracoscopic position from the start, allowing single prep and drape with less chance of wire dislodgement — John Riccadio (clinical) [Ep 6 · 4:35](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=275)
- Problems with chest procedures have been based on anesthesia staff not understanding the workflow — Neil Johnson (opinion) [Ep 6 · 6:23](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=383)
- Positioning patient in same position as thoracoscopy from the start avoids need to re-drape — Neil Johnson (clinical) [Ep 6 · 6:46](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=406)
- Trajectory planning is done at workstation by clicking on lesion and skin entry point; system draws the line and can adjust it to go through middle of intercostal space above the rib to avoid arteries and nerves below the rib — Neil Johnson (clinical) [Ep 6 · 6:57](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=417)
- After trajectory planning, computer arranges C-arm automatically in exactly the right position — Neil Johnson (clinical) [Ep 6 · 7:26](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=446)
- Needle is advanced to pleura and stabilized with blue towels; procedure must be done quickly without waiting or fiddling after needle insertion to avoid pneumothorax or other complications — Neil Johnson (clinical) [Ep 6 · 7:36](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=456)
- Same respiratory excursion must be maintained during cone-beam CT imaging and during needle advancement; if respiratory excursion differs, needle will be off target because nodule location in 3D space changes with lung inflation — John Riccadio (clinical) [Ep 6 · 7:58](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=478)
- Apnea without positive pressure (rather than CPAP of 20-25) is most reproducible and may reduce chance of pneumothorax — Neil Johnson (opinion) [Ep 6 · 8:59](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=539)
- Cone-beam CT spatial and contrast resolution is just as good as traditional CT, possibly slightly better; every small lesion seen on diagnostic CT has been visible on hybrid OR cone-beam CT — Neil Johnson (clinical) [Ep 6 · 10:23](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=623)
- Small nodules are not visible under plain fluoroscopy; without pre-procedure CT and live fluoroscopy superimposed with planned graphics, operator would be pushing blindly — John Riccadio (clinical) [Ep 6 · 12:04](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=724)
- 3D rendering with nodule segmentation coloring allows rotation of image in 3D space to understand nodule position relative to needle tip — John Riccadio (clinical) [Ep 6 · 12:59](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=779)
- Having interventional radiologist present in room during surgery for real-time discussion of wire position (anterior/posterior/medial) is helpful for confirming everyone is on same page — Rajni Dasgupta (opinion) [Ep 6 · 13:24](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=804)
- Radiologists and surgeons think slightly differently in 3D space; having trusted colleagues from both specialties discuss together makes positioning very clear — Neil Johnson (opinion) [Ep 6 · 13:50](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=830)
- Interventional radiologists stay in room during surgery when possible, or return frequently — Neil Johnson (clinical) [Ep 6 · 14:07](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=847)
- Goal is to prep and drape patient once; positioning in lateral decubitus for thoracoscopy from the start limits movement and helps keep wire in place while saving time — Rajni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 6 · 15:00](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=900)
- Rarely, nodule location may require supine positioning that differs from thoracoscopic position — Rajni Dasgupta (clinical) [Ep 6 · 15:05](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=905)
- During needle advancement through parietal and visceral pleura, methylene blue blood patch is injected toward target — John Riccadio (clinical) [Ep 6 · 15:40](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=940)
- For very peripheral nodules, if needle advancement is not decisive through visceral pleura and fluid is being injected, the visceral pleural surface can be pushed away; operator may think needle is deep enough when it has not actually punctured visceral pleura, resulting in wire deployment outside the lung — John Riccadio (clinical) [Ep 6 · 15:56](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=956)

## Host summaries
Recaps by a host of what the experts said — not the host's own clinical position.
- About 20% of osteosarcoma patients already have lung metastases by the time of diagnosis, usually picked up on staging chest CT. — Rod Gerardo summarizing the discussion [Ep 3 · 1:29](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=89)
- With thoracotomy, surgeons can typically remove 15 to 20 nodules, but with thoracoscopy the number is more limited. — Rod Gerardo summarizing the discussion [Ep 3 · 5:03](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=303)
- A multi-institution study of 200 patients with metastatic osteosarcoma—the largest study ever done—compared outcomes between open resection and thoracoscopy. — Rod Gerardo summarizing the discussion [Ep 3 · 5:23](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/update-course-rewind-thoracotomy-vs-vats-for-lung-metastases-5632?t=323)
- The standard approach uses three ports total: one camera port and two working ports. — Rod Gerardo summarizing the discussion [Ep 5 · 8:34](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=514)
- After wire retrieval and chest insufflation, the surgeon works with anesthesiology to collapse the lung for resection. — Rod Gerardo summarizing the discussion [Ep 5 · 8:50](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=530)
- The surgeon consults with interventional radiology throughout the case to confirm correct localization. — Rod Gerardo summarizing the discussion [Ep 5 · 9:01](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=541)
- Wedge resection is performed using a thoracoscopic stapler. — Rod Gerardo summarizing the discussion [Ep 5 · 9:11](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=551)
- The specimen is X-rayed after removal to verify wire or coil removal, and sealant is applied over staple lines to prevent bleeding. — Rod Gerardo summarizing the discussion [Ep 5 · 9:21](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/thoracoscopic-lung-nodule-resection-techniques-with-wire-localization-and-icg-im-16288?t=561)
- Dr. Johnson has started localizing with microembolization coils (typically used for vascular embolization) in combination with Copan's wire as backup in case wire is pulled out during thoracoscopic resection — John Riccadio summarizes what Dr. Neil Johnson said [Ep 6 · 2:09](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=129)
- Cone-beam CT is performed by C-arm rotating 360 degrees around patient while capturing multiple images from different angles, creating cross-sectional images like traditional CT — Denise Liu summarizing the discussion [Ep 6 · 5:28](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=328)
- CT localization accounts for z-axis by drawing a line between skin surface and target on cross-sectional images, providing 3D spatial information — Denise Liu summarizing the discussion [Ep 6 · 6:11](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=371)
- Respiration motion control by anesthesia is crucial; anesthesia must provide apnea at precise moment for targeting lung lesion — Denise Liu summarizing the discussion [Ep 6 · 6:35](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=395)
- To ensure reproducible respiratory effort, patient is fully paralyzed and ventilator tube is disconnected, allowing natural exhalation to a natural stopping point — Denise Liu summarizing the discussion [Ep 6 · 8:43](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=523)
- Most common complication is pneumothorax, managed by placing 5-French sheath or UE catheter connected to low wall suction — Denise Liu summarizing the discussion [Ep 6 · 9:17](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=557)
- Multiple lesions can be localized simultaneously; up to three have been done, though multiple localizations increase pneumothorax risk — Denise Liu summarizing the discussion [Ep 6 · 11:04](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=664)
- If multiple lesions are in same lobe, thoracic surgeon can resect them together; if in different lobes with concern for different etiology, typically the largest lesion is targeted — Denise Liu summarizing the discussion [Ep 6 · 11:21](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=681)
- Display monitor shows live X-ray image with graphics and pre-op CT for comparison during needle advancement — Rod Gerardo summarizing the discussion [Ep 6 · 12:36](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=756)
- 3D rendering takes time; decision to use it is case-by-case based on whether it is needed or procedure can proceed efficiently without it — Denise Liu summarizing the discussion [Ep 6 · 14:23](https://library.globalcastmd.com/watch/hybrid-or-workflow-for-pediatric-lung-nodule-localization-and-resection-16289?t=863)

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